Stop Acting Like His Mother w/ Dr. Brittany McGeehan Ep: 100

Happy100th episode!   🎉  🥂

 I can't believe we've been together for a hundred episodes. And I just wanted to say thank you first for trusting me, you know, through discovery calls and one on one clients and the bootcamp, hearing your stories and you trusting me with your most intimate stories and allowing me to trust you all with my stories. I am so thankful for that. I'm so thankful for you sticking here, listening to the podcast and guess what? Because of that, and because you've been going in and rating the podcast and giving a review, it is now ranked 2. 5 percent globally. on podcast charts.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. 

 that helps to bring even more amazing guests to the show and to provide you with value. I just want to say thank you and I feel so much in gratitude. and the other thing I'm so excited about this episode. This episode is the bomb.

We are talking about the drama triangle and there's so much value in this episode. 

I can't wait for you to hear it. So, get those earbuds in, turn the volume up, get ready. You are not going to want to miss a minute of this. 

[00:02:29] Shanenn Bryant: Dr. Brittany McGeehan is here, and Brittany, when we started talking about you being on the podcast, I went to your website like I always do if I'm, you know, looking at potential guests, and I saw one sentence on your website and I was like, I don't care what else, like, I don't care what else she said.

She could say nothing else. This could be a five second podcast interview with just you saying that line and it would be just the bomb. Like, wow. So, I was like, I have to have her. And then when we talked, you started talking about the drama triangle and all of this amazing, good stuff that we're going to talk about today. So welcome to the show.

[00:03:17] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes, thank you for having me.

[00:03:19] Shanenn Bryant: Do you remember what the line is? Do you want to say the line? Do you remember? Do you want me to do it?

[00:03:24] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Uh,

[00:03:25] Shanenn Bryant: Do you remember it?

[00:03:26] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: I don't remember

all of it, so yes.

[00:03:27] Shanenn Bryant: Okay, so this is the line on your website where it's like, that's all you need to know for today. It was, "If you continue to behave like their mother, he will continue to behave like a child."

[00:03:46] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes,

[00:03:48] Shanenn Bryant: Oh my gosh. And it's not intentional, right? We don't, we don't intentionally go, I'm going to treat him like a child or I'm going to treat her like a child. But we do it. We get very controlling, especially people who have these insecurities and, and maybe come from some dysfunction and there's a whole gamut of reasons why we might do it.

We're going to talk about it today.

[00:04:13] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes. Yep. Yes.

[00:04:15] Shanenn Bryant: Um, okay, so I want to first give the listeners a little lowdown on like, you're not just a good copywriter on your website, but you are also a licensed psychologist and performance coach specializing in empowering high achieving female CEOs to overcome personal and professional challenges.

So, you focus on inner child work, which that we're going to hit there today, and leadership development and you have developed the Powerhouse Paradox. And you've got a freebie at the end, so stick around.

You're going to want to hear it and where to go to get it. 

 Let's just go ahead and dive in. I want to talk about this, um, drama triangle. I had not heard this before, and so, of course, I've been researching it since you said it. But can you just first tell us what it is and then we'll dive into it.

[00:05:06] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes, it is. It's my favorite. It's like my North Star in all of the work that I do. When clients come on board, it's one of the very first things is like, you have to learn this triangle. So, it's an upside-down triangle. And essentially what I tell clients is that if you are engaging in some kind of dysfunctional behavior or even feel a pull toward it, right.

Just something that's not going to serve you. Your relationship overall or a friendship and it's not coming from a grounded place. So usually in moments of insecurity, jealousy, things like that, you're somewhere on this triangle.

So, there's three roles. There is rescuer. this tends to be women who are, fixing or helping, in their marriage, right?

I know best. This is, I made a career out of this position. Okay. Uh,

[00:05:51] Shanenn Bryant: Right. Yeah. Helping. I love how you say that.

[00:05:54] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes, I'm a very well-paid rescuer. Um, so there's rescuer, there's also victim. This is anytime you're in a place whenever you feel like you don't have a choice. Because I tell clients adults always have a choice. We might not feel like we do, and we might not like that choice, but we always, there's always a choice that we can make to, in some way, shape, or form, protect ourselves. Now, there's always going to be exclusions to this, right? In domestic violence, things like that. We're not talking about extreme situations. This is just day to day dynamics. Yes,

[00:06:28] Shanenn Bryant: On that real quick because I think when we say victim, most people are like, I'm not playing the victim. Like, I don't consider myself the victim. I'm not playing the victim. This is just, you know, maybe I did have this happen, but that's not affecting me now or I'm not playing in that role.

So, thank you for explaining it because it's probably a little different than what you we, our, mind would first go to,

[00:06:53] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Absolutely. Well, and the third is perpetrator, right? So, the language is fairly outdated. Um, Karpman came up with this, I couldn't even tell you when, and it's one of those, I always just give a disclaimer to people, that all of the language in this is probably going to bring up some sort of reaction, and that's okay, that's human. If you can stick with it and just get curious about the role itself, take the language out of it,

because there is so much heightened. Uh, emotion behind it. But yeah, truly a victim is, victim is even, you know, my partner is struggling in work and that means that I have to pick up the load at home so that my children are not affected

by this experience, right?

That's a very, like, um, I experience this in my marriage all the time. Uh, if my husband and I are going through something and I'm like, well, one of us has to show up for the kids. It's such a normal dynamic. It

can bring on the victim because it feels like I don't have a choice.

[00:07:49] Shanenn Bryant: Right. Brittany.

[00:07:50] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: You do.

[00:07:51] Shanenn Bryant: Yeah. Um, or, you know, on a much lighter scale, your husband consistently forgets to lock the front door and leaves the garage light on. And I'm like, are you serious, AGAIN?

[00:08:03] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes. Taking the trash out. Forgot to do it and now the trash has to go out, right? 100%. 

[00:08:09] Shanenn Bryant: What, and I have to do it 

[00:08:11] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes.

Yes. 

[00:08:13] Shanenn Bryant: Then I have to help him remember.

[00:08:15] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yep, yes, that is victim. And it, cause like in reality there is a choice. I could choose to let the trash be super stinky in the garage. I just don't like those consequences. And so, what happens is if you sit in a victim, if you get in that place, you can very easily pop up to perpetrator. And all of these move in a flow. So typically, if you start in rescuer, you move into victim, if you're not taking care of yourself, and then you can pop up to perpetrator. And perpetrator is just violating someone's boundary, so making a snarky comment. Um, or being like passive aggressive. Right?

[00:08:51] Shanenn Bryant: I mean, I'm just saying. Yeah. Well, and us as, you know, uh, jealousy junkies here, we might make a snarky comment or two and take it out on a, on our partner.

[00:09:03] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes,

Yes, absolutely. A hundred, a hundred percent, right? And yes, no, absolutely. And, and that's all that is. It's just the, the victim, the place of, I don't have a choice, and I sit in it too long and then I pop up real quick. It's a perpetrator. I make a comment and then what happens is I feel guilty about it. Oh, I wish I didn't make that comment. I wish, I know that it was not okay to like act in this jealousy. And then you move right back over to Because rescuer is unmanaged anxiety, and I'm not tolerating that anxiety in my body, and so I'm, instead I'm going to fix it. And then it just, it continues.

[00:09:44] Shanenn Bryant: Is it always kind of that path or do you, can you like. bounce in another way or it does typically follow kind of that.

[00:09:53] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: typically, it does. I, I always say like never say never, especially when it comes

to humans and relationships. Typically, it's got this like one directional, your kind of just pop around it. And I don't want to say there's a methodology to it, but there kind of is. Right. 

[00:10:08] Shanenn Bryant: Okay. 

[00:10:09] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Typically, you don't stay in perpetrator very long.

Usually, it's a very quick little jab. Um, it's a very quick little like, oh, I, well, you did this. So now I'm going to go and buy this purse that I really, really want, whatever it is, right? Even though it's not in the budget, I don't know. It's just an example. And then, oh gosh, now I feel anxious. So now I'm going to move real quick over here, back over into Rescuer. I usually say Rescuer is home base. and you move quick between victim and perpetrator. So, you really have to pay attention to where you're at.

[00:10:42] Shanenn Bryant: Yeah, and I'm thinking about, um, when someone has this, like, jealous meltdown. They're triggered, they, you know, that feeling of almost like I have no control. And so, I was trying to almost walk through because usually what happens like we feel it and then we lash out and then we feel guilty. And then we feel it and we lash out and we feel guilty.

[00:11:09] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes. Yep. And like the, the intricacy there too, and where I use this model is overlapping the inner child model on top of it.

[00:11:17] Shanenn Bryant: Okay.

[00:11:18] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: So, your teenager tends to be this piece of you that's a little bit more black and white. They really want justice. They want fairness. Addiction tends to be acted out here. That is rescuer and perpetrator. It's when you feel one up, you feel better than someone. In some way, shape, or form. And it's the little, the five-year-old, that really vulnerable piece of you that comes online that you might experience, in a jealous meltdown. And that's the victim.

[00:11:48] Shanenn Bryant: Right.

[00:11:49] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Children are the truest victims, right?

It is, it is parents’ jobs to protect them. And so, yeah.

[00:11:57] Shanenn Bryant: So, you made a comment when we were just talking and I want to make sure that we bring this up. But oftentimes, the biggest thing that I hear is like, well, how do I know? How do I know that this person's right for me or not right for me? Or how do I know that this is something I should be upset about?

Or it's just my jealousy? Or like, how can I be certain that this person is not going to do what I fear they will do? And it's that child that, that wants the certainty. Can you talk about that a little bit 

[00:12:33] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes, yes, right? Like, developmentally, the stage that we are at as children, we want things to make sense. This is why it's so hard for toddlers and little bitties, like four or five years old, when mom or dad does something that's out of character for them. So maybe they raise their voice, and we're not used to it. Maybe they decide they're not going to come and play a game with us, and we really want them to come and play a game with us because we're very egocentric at this age. The whole world revolves around us, right? I mean

as babies it has to

or like you might die, right? Like

to be super dramatic but the world has to revolve around you is a little bitty and you're slowly having to progress past this stage as you get older. If you never made it past that stage, that's still a belief. And we get stuck there. We get frozen in developmental stages. If our caregiver, for whatever reason, no, no blame or shame to that. It's hard being a parent.

Um, if they have not healthily helped you move through these different stages of actually mom still loves you and I'm not going to go jump on the trampoline for the 67th time,

but man, I love you. And I'm going to repair over and over and over again. Right. If that doesn't happen, if that repair doesn't happen over and over again, then psychologically we get frozen at that stage and we regress and meaning we kind of move into a younger state of being. The five-year-old comes online. That there's unfinished business here. And I teach my clients to essentially use this as a roadmap. So, if a five-year-old is coming online and it is feeling like, I need this certainty.

I need to know if things are going to be okay. The reality of a relationship is we never know 100%. The only person we can never be abandoned by is ourselves. That's the only person that

we can 100 percent count on, right? And the, I think it's an invitation when that five-year-old shows up and this, this work is continually being put in front of us. And it's an invitation to come back to that space and time and to be like, hey, five-year-old, I'm going to take care of you.

And the reality is, is actually, if this doesn't go the way that I want it to, even if we feel uncertain, I can take care of you.

I can help tend to those emotions and we can move up and off of. So, like the victim, the five-year-old, is all about protection. That's how you get off of the drama triangle. It's about self-care and setting a limit for yourself. So, I will not tolerate x, y, and z, otherwise here's the consequence,

[00:15:12] Shanenn Bryant: Mm 

[00:15:13] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Right? That's how ideally, we're protecting children. So that's how we have to come in and reparent ourselves in that moment.

[00:15:19] Shanenn Bryant: Oh, that's an interesting point. Yeah. So, like, this is why parents say you can't play in the road.

[00:15:25] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes.

[00:15:26] Shanenn Bryant: You can't play in the street. You can't ride your bike in the street.

There are boundaries,

[00:15:31] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes.

[00:15:32] Shanenn Bryant: and we kind of abandon those abounder …. that was hard to say. We kind of abandon our boundaries. in these situations where we're kind of, you know, maybe struggling to get out of that child stage.

[00:15:47] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yeah.

[00:15:48] Shanenn Bryant: Our attachment style, you know, all of that that's playing in there where we don't either set boundaries or we don't set them until we're really pissed off and then we're like, okay, this is a hard-set boundary that I'm doing.

[00:16:00] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:16:02] Shanenn Bryant: I think that one of the really important things that you said, I just want to like say it again for it to sink in with people, is the child is the one that wants that guarantee.

It's like part of the stakes of being in a relationship is that it might not go how you want it to go, or how you hope it goes, or how you expect it to go. It's like that's, that's the thing. That's the, the ante that you're putting in there of this isn't a guarantee. And I think we get, we feel like that when we get into a relationship, when we say, okay, you're committed to me, I'm committed to you.

We're going to get married. We're going to have kids. We're going to do this thing. And that's my guarantee that takes me that now I'm safe with this person, which a lot of times I see that too, where maybe we weren't safe. growing up and then we just kind of transfer like, okay, now you're going to be the one to make me safe and now I'm gonna feel safe with you.

[00:16:59] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yeah.

[00:17:00] Shanenn Bryant: Then we're destroyed when that doesn't happen or when someone's human and they make a mistake.

[00:17:06] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Humans are messy. I always say the most dangerous thing you can do in life is talk to another human being and be in relationship with them. Like the most dangerous thing you can do. Like

[00:17:17] Shanenn Bryant: That's right. Yeah. I love it.

[00:17:20] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: There’s nothing messier. We're so

human. 

[00:17:23] Shanenn Bryant: Oh, that's great. Okay, so you were talking about, like, how the heck do we get off this, like, I want out of the triangle. I'm tired of bouncing from corner to, well, not corner, yeah, from,

[00:17:34] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yeah.

[00:17:35] Shanenn Bryant: yeah, corner to corner, I guess, whatever. I'm tired of bouncing in this triangle. Get me off of this thing.

What do I do?

[00:17:44] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes. Most of it is about setting a boundary and knowing your limits, but there's also some nervous system work. So especially if you're in rescue or if you're in this place of like, oh, I want to make it better. I want to make it better. There's something happening inside of your body. There's activation that needs to be tended to. So, I always tell people you have to have a go to coping skill in the moment and one that you've practiced. So, one, like notice when it shows up. And write it down. This is something I want to tend to, but also for me, I like, I will go and run. If I get real like fixy and like itchy, I'm like, Ooh, I'm grabbing my shoes and I'm taking the kids and we're going for a run.

Um, you have to get the activation out of your body. And then also like, cause it's your job to manage that anxiety. What you're doing in Rescuer is you're actually putting that anxiety on your partner or whoever it is. So, I've been known to walk around like this, right? Like with my arms like this. I'm like, I'm trying to contain.

[00:18:45] Shanenn Bryant: Like this, I'm trying to not have this spill over on you.

Well, that's such a good thing because that's what we do. It's almost like I, when you're jealous and you're feeling insecure in situations, especially in romantic relationships, it's like, get this out of me. I don't, I don't want to feel this. I, it feels gross.

It feels shameful. It feels uncomfortable. I want it out of me, and I don't care.

[00:19:10] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes.

[00:19:11] Shanenn Bryant: the path that I leave, um, of, you know, just destroying everyone around me or my partner, really, and potentially maybe the, you know, pretty girl or guy or whatever it is. But we want it out. And so, I like, you know, there are other healthier strategies to get it out is what you're saying.

[00:19:33] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: 100 Percent. Right. So, I will have clients will come in and maybe they've experienced infidelity, but we're working through it. Right, and the situation shows up and they can see it coming a mile away and they're like, oh, I am triggered. This is showing up and I will tell them, it's your job to pick up your shoes and go for a run. And then you bring that anxiety in here and we process it in this container because the reality is in that situation, right perhaps they've already set the boundary. So, if you talk with this person, I'm not comfortable with that and I will be exiting this relationship. So, the stake and the consequence, what happens if it's not honored? That, so that in and of itself pulls you off of that triangle. And if the itchiness is still there, then that is yours. to process, whether that is through EMDR therapy, some sort of go lift weights, right? But get, get the activation up and out of your body. I think most people have to remember there are multiple ways to do that.

We kind of get tunnel vision, especially with big emotions like jealousy. It's like, Nope, it's your fault that I'm feeling this way. And so, you need to do this to fix it.

Right. And that's perpetrator.

[00:20:45] Shanenn Bryant: Right. Yeah. Oh, so good. Um, I wanted to, can you give us, maybe one or two ways or thoughts or just examples of how we would know which we're in and then again, kind of like, okay, I don't want to be playing the victim. What do I do? I don't want to be playing the, the, uh, persecutor. What do I do?

[00:21:12] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: So, victim is really easy. You feel like you don't have a choice. Anytime you feel like you're stuck between a rock and a hard place, you're in victim, you also tend to feel a little bit younger. So, if you start having these thoughts of like, oh, what is wrong with you? Right? That's little, um, that one is all about self-care. That one is all about, there's something missing here. I need to tend to myself. So initially I need to set a protective boundary. Maybe that is, I need time to think about it. What I want to do, or I need to go to the gym three extra times or go get like body work done, whatever it is, right? I need to take care of myself because there is a choice to be made here. I just can't see it. I'm feeling too little, right? So that's victim. Does that make sense?

[00:22:01] Shanenn Bryant: Yeah, it does. And you make a good point about, like, we don't have to know what we're gonna do right now. And I remember feeling like that, like, I gotta solve this and fix it right now because, again, because I feel gross. I don't feel good.

[00:22:16] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Mm

[00:22:17] Shanenn Bryant: And I gotta figure out how to make that go away right now.

And so, like, you're, we don't have to, you can, you can come back to it, you can figure it out, take the time, and then come back and say, okay, here's, here are my choices, right?

[00:22:33] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: hmm. Yep. I always say the biggest, uh, like, functional adult, that's just the phrasing that I use from this model, uh, is curiosity. So, if we can slow down long enough to find our curiosity, then you have found your adult. The

parent has reparented and has entered the building, right? Because it usually takes someone who's older and outside of the situation to be like, hey, we can't run in the street because, like, there's a car coming.

Mm hmm.

[00:22:57] Shanenn Bryant: Right.

[00:22:58] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Kids can't see that.

[00:23:00] Shanenn Bryant: Right. 

[00:23:00] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes, 

[00:23:02] Shanenn Bryant: Okay, so that's victim, that's how we know we're in victim.

[00:23:06] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yep, perpetrator tends to feel explosive. Perpetrator is also quick.

Um, so that one tends to be the hardest. It can be a little bit more covert, so it can come through like the snarky little comment, but it, you can feel it coming up and out, right? There's a real, like, your behavior is coming at someone,

and it tends to feel bigger.

[00:23:28] Shanenn Bryant: Yeah, I kind of describe it like, you know, um, in the cartoons where they're like blowing fire or like venom or whatever, you know, that's sort of what it feels like, right? Yeah.

[00:23:42] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yeah, the motion is very, AT versus rescuer, you feel pulled in. This is like, uh, also tends to feel very angry and you feel like you're better than someone. So, there's a reason the triangle sits like an inverted triangle, right? When you're in rescuer and you're in perpetrator, you feel better than someone.

[00:24:02] Shanenn Bryant: Oh, that's so interesting. Okay, so they're at the top because we didn't label where they were. So, they're at the top

and you feel better than.

[00:24:12] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes. Yes.

So, I I've seen like activities done where you actually put rescuer at the top of a ladder. The victim sits on the floor. And the perpetrator will sit on like a chair. And that's the order of essentially how you feel. Rescuer is like high and mighty. I know what is best.

I can fix it. I can make it better. So essentially, I'm playing God. They get to stand on the top of the ladder. Victim is I'm not capable of taking care of myself. They sit on the floor. And the chair is perpetrator. So, I am better than, but I'm not so high and mighty that I'm gone.

[00:24:45] Shanenn Bryant: Got it. Okay, so the rescuer, I think that's the one I have the hardest. Like, I'm trying to relate it to, in a jealous meltdown, what that would look like in that scenario.

[00:24:56] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yeah. Yes. Um, I see it a lot with my clients as like the, the meltdown has happened because the meltdown is happening in perpetrator, right? When things come up

[00:25:06] Shanenn Bryant: Right when you explode.

[00:25:07] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes. And then it's, I feel guilty. Um, you know, next time let's go ahead and shift and let's actually set some new boundaries and right.

They go into planner mode.

[00:25:19] Shanenn Bryant: Mm.

[00:25:20] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: you know, in the future, we just shouldn't go to this place anymore. And I actually think it would be better if you did X, Y, and Z. So, there's a focus on saying you should do X, Y, and Z. A boundary is all about yourself. It's very protective,

[00:25:34] Shanenn Bryant: Got it

[00:25:34] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Right? Um, so there's a very, I'm going into planning mode.

I'm going into let me make it better. Um,

female CEOs really are good at this because you see a few steps ahead.

[00:25:49] Shanenn Bryant: Right.

[00:25:50] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: So, let me bring some of the CEO into the relationship and let's strategize, right? That's fixing.

[00:25:59] Shanenn Bryant: Let's, let's come up with a plan so that I don't ever feel like this 

[00:26:03] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: That's exactly

[00:26:04] Shanenn Bryant: you don't ever make me feel like this again.

[00:26:06] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: That is right. Let's come up with Q1, Q2, Q3, right? Like, let's come up with all the goals.

Let's hit our KPRs. Like,

all of it. Yes. Yep. That tends to be what rescuer looks like. It can also look like, um, you know, I've had this big meltdown and now my partner is feeling really sad because they're experiencing the consequences of my feelings, which are valid and real. And, but hey, it wasn't that bad and it's really okay.

But you really have worked on X, Y, and Z. Let me make it better.

Because they can't tolerate seeing a partner sit in that emotion.

[00:26:44] Shanenn Bryant: Oh, yeah. That's a great point. That's a great point. Because I get asked that all the time. Like, what should the partner do of somebody who's jealous? What should they do? What should they do? So, um, there are episodes coming, folks. It's happening. It is happening but so thank you for touching on that. one thing I did want to ask real quick is, um, I keep talking about like the, the person who just kind of explodes and they fire off their comments and they do that thing because that's how I was.

But, um, and still, you know, tend to do that if I'm, if I'm really triggered. But there's also, um, the person who they shut down and they go like cold, and they don't say anything. In fact, I'm not talking to you anymore. I'm giving you a short answer. Is that still like the persecutor? It's still that.

[00:27:33] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: it's punishing,

right? In the same way that a parent can give you the silent treatment. I won't talk to you until you stop crying. Right? Wipe that look off your face. That is punishment just as much as like spanking a child.

[00:27:45] Shanenn Bryant: Mm hmm.

[00:27:46] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: A Hundred percent. 

[00:27:48] Shanenn Bryant: Or you have to eat all your green beans 

[00:27:49] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yeah, yes. Yep. You're gonna have to…

[00:27:52] Shanenn Bryant: That's still here. That's still here. Oh my gosh. Well, Dr. Brittany McGeehan, this has been so amazing. I love this topic of the drama triangle. It's going to be so helpful for people. They're going to constantly now like, oh, I'm over here.

I'm over here. and bouncing out of that. So, one last like tip, trick, technique, thought that we can have to get us out of that triangle?

[00:28:23] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yeah. Is to develop a relationship between little you and adult you and pull them out from yourself so you can see them, That's like the key to reparenting. And that's the key to building self-trust

is if I can know that I can rely on this older, this more functional grounded version of me to come and take care of little me. I mean, that's everything, right? If you can build that muscle, then like every relationship is, it's in the palm of your hand.

[00:28:49] Shanenn Bryant: Ah. Fantastic. You do have something free that you're giving to the listener. Tell us what it is and, this will be in the show notes.

[00:28:59] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yes, yes. I'm so excited. So, I have developed a new framework called the Powerhouse Paradox. And with that, it's looking at the overlap, right, between childhood experiences and executive CEO behavior, where you're just killing it. Um, I actually have a quiz, and I have several different profiles that go with this framework to show sort of where you're falling. So if you hear this and you're curious and you're like, oh, I wonder if that applies to me, I have a quiz to say yes or no. Um, and it gives you not only sort of the name of your profile, but it also gives you information on how to connect with an inner child based on where you come out in order to develop a set of skills that are going to best serve you as you move forward.

So

[00:29:45] Shanenn Bryant: Oh,

[00:29:46] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: handing you

the roadmap to relationships.

[00:29:48] Shanenn Bryant: Yes, I love it. I love quizzes. I think everybody loves those. Like, put me in a box. Tell me, tell me what I'm like. I love it. 

So 

thank you so much. Uh, that again, that'll be linked in the show notes. I appreciate you being here, Dr. Brittany McGeehan. Thank you so much.

[00:30:04] Dr. Brittany McGeehan: Yeah, yes. Thank you for having me.